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Neoliberal Feudalism's avatar

Nice post, Chris. I agree with your core point: Zionists pushing white Americans to go die in another Middle East war on behalf of Israel.

A couple smaller quibbles, though:

1. The elites did not lose in Afghanistan because the goal was never to win there. The goal was to rape the American taxpayer in a forever war to benefit the transnational security state, as Julian Assange so eloquently put it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IGU_7alJ80 . The upper elites got *exactly* what they wanted from the conflict.

2. Here, too, it is important not to conflate real objectives from fake objectives. The real objectives the elites want is Iran *destroyed*, not necessarily *conquered*, so that it cannot pose a threat to Israel again -- just like Iraq and Syria and Libya are all destroyed.

"Victory" in a conflict as "victory" is traditionally understood does not necessarily mean "victory" or "loss" for our elites with their twisted, hidden goals and objectives. (Vietnam was also a victory for them, as it drained massive amounts of blood and treasure from white middle America, even though Vietnam is normally considered a loss).

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Kathleen Lowrey's avatar

I just said the same thing. I should have read the comments before commenting, although it never hurts to repeat that chaos is NOT a failure from their perspective, chaos IS a win.

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anne daniecki's avatar

I hate all of these bastards. Gingrich, Ackman, the Cheneys--lying bastards. Look at Afghanistan now. Civilians killed in mass. We have disabled veterans from that shit show and still no one learns the lessons. What happened to the Vietnam protesters of the 60's, instead we have these wimps out there crying about keeping violent migrants in our country. Clean up the streets and send them to fight in Iran--that'll wake them up.

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Rewpvpd's avatar

The difference is that the jews want these wars but didn't want Vietnam. All the movements of the 60s were astroturfed by jews from women's lib to civil rights to anti-Vietnam to upending the 200-year immigration policy. They utterly wrecked America in the 60s.

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Usually Wash's avatar

I think he means "the US should drop bunker busters on Fordow", not "US troops should die invading Iran". In any case, it's just not relevant what he thinks. Trump calls the shots here.

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Christopher Brunet's avatar

do you think if America drops bunker buster on Fordow that their involvement will be limited to just “a bomber or two for a few days”? or will it probably take more than a few days and more than a bomber or two?

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Usually Wash's avatar

Limited to a bomber or two for a few days. Trump doesn’t want to get involved in a big war and Israel is capable of hitting everything except possibly Fordow. Iran did try to kill Trump so he might have a grudge, but I think he’d rather let Israel do the dirty work.

Trump vetoed the whole Israeli strike until he green lit it. So far he has vetoed killing Khamenei. He’ll just let Israel kill Khamenei.

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Christopher Brunet's avatar

what if Iran doesn't change their regime after a few days of bombing? will Israel give up? Or escalate?

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Usually Wash's avatar

The primary purpose of the attack is to destroy Iran’s nuclear program. Overthrowing the “Death to America” communist theocracy that tried to assassinate Trump and building Trump Tower in Tehran would certainly be nice. But that’s not the primary point of the attacks. The attacks will go until there is no nuclear threat from Iran.

I’m not worried about “escalation”. Iran is losing. Israel can and will defeat them. What exactly is Iran gonna do to escalate? They’ve already lost a third of their ballistic missiles.

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Kathleen Lowrey's avatar

Israel cannot do diddly. They can kick Iran, run away, and howl for the U.S. to beat Iran up on their behalf.

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Usually Wash's avatar

Huh? They seem to have done a lot already. See this New York Times article.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/12/world/middleeast/israel-iran-strikes.html

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Kathleen Lowrey's avatar

They don't expect to "win" and they don't care. They just want destabilizing chaos in the region which is to Israel's advantage. They got what they wanted in Afghanistan and Iraq, these were not failures *at all* in their view.

They'll feed more American young people into that meat grinder and laugh while doing it. They're itching to do it.

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Rewpvpd's avatar

Jews... "hello fellow Iranians, we should overthrow our government." Never ends with these jews. White people need to tell them to STFU and any rep who dares represent them instead of us needs to be roundly rejected if not tried for some sort of crime.

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William Skolnick's avatar

Good overview , I don’t agree with your conclusions. This is not ww3 and their allies are not their real allies what has Putin done other than take ? Eliminating their nuclear program is a gift to the world. To compare this to US Iraq & afghan wars is the incorrect comparison. Especially as you mention the incorrect us intel regarding saadams WMD. Iran had the ability to break out very shortly and has continuously lied about it for years. You make it seem that we can actually ignore it & what is your alternative keep accepting their lies ,hiding , aiding & abetting terror & unrest across the region ??

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Kathleen Lowrey's avatar

Listen to Glenn Greenwald recounting the years and years and years of Israel-backer reports that Iran was "weeks / months" away from nukes. Another meat grinder for American boys is not a "gift to the world" it's a gift to Israel and no one else.

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David Lang Wardle's avatar

Bill Ackman: a clown with no military service or expertise, wants to send the children of OTHER Americans, not his own four, to die in Iran. Fuck him and the tricycle he's riding in on.

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Sensitive Young Fascist's avatar

Jews are all Zionists, and they are all liars.

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Micah Johnson's avatar

Tabloid like headline and premise. The nukes just blow up in the middle of the night (bombed) and it’s over. It wouldn’t be the first. There’s no war with Iran, no territory to take, occupy and no regime to topple.

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Micah Johnson's avatar

Who said anything about nukes? Iraq and Syria lost programs to regular bombs, South Africa quit theirs under pressure, etc

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Micah Johnson's avatar

The true thrust of the article is summarizing the goofy neocons polluting the conversation - just going completely off topic, diverging from reality. You’ve done a top notch job of exposing them.

Anyone in the world can bomb Iran and they can’t do a thing about it. If you have an objective, now is the time. They spent all the money the Democrats gave them on proxy wars. They have 10% of the world’s oil and 15% of the world‘s natural gas yet they have an energy crisis where people are freezing to death. It’s a completely dysfunctional place that has taken a multitude of L’s in recent years. It turned out you can actually destroy the enemy with low effort.

No one cares what they have to say. They’ve either been removed from influence or become a gay democrat hybrid like Bill Kristol. The “Israel’s War(s)” panic type is low IQ and low fortitude

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Doug Ross's avatar

I like Lee Smith's take a lot better... it begins:

"The main reason Israel’s massive attack on Iranian leadership, nuclear facilities, and other targets came as a surprise is that no one believes American presidents when they talk about protecting Americans and advancing our interests—especially when they’re talking about the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Ever since the 1979 Iranian Revolution, U.S. presidents have wanted an accommodation with Iran—not revenge for holding 52 Americans captive for 444 days, but comity. Ronald Reagan told Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev to tear down the Berlin Wall, but when the Iranians’ Lebanese ally Hezbollah killed 17 Americans at the U.S. embassy in Beirut and 241 at the Marine barracks in 1983, he flinched. Bill Clinton wanted a deal with Iran so badly, he helped hide the Iranians’ sponsorship of the group that killed 19 airmen at Khobar Towers in 1996. George W. Bush turned a blind eye to Tehran’s depredations as Shia militias backed by Iran killed hundreds of U.S. troops in Iraq, while Iran’s Syrian ally Bashar al-Assad chartered buses to transport Sunni fighters from the Damascus airport to the Iraqi border, where they joined the hunt for Americans. Barack Obama’s signature foreign policy initiative was the Iran nuclear deal—designed not, as he promised, to stop Tehran’s nuclear weapons program, but to legalize it and protect it under the umbrella of an international agreement, backed by the United States.

That all changed with Donald Trump..."

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/normal-president-donald-trump-iran

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Christopher Brunet's avatar

Tablet was launched in 2009 as ''an online outlet about Jewish life and identity'' so it isn't exactly a surprise that the conclusion of this article you linked is that '' Israel's massive attack on Iranian leadership significantly enhanced America's peace''

they have an explicitly Zionist agenda

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Doug Ross's avatar

The genesis of Tablet doesn't change the fact that Obama had two people he relentlessly tried to destroy: (a) Trump; (2) Netanyahu. We all know what Obama was. And he's the architect of this debacle.

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Kathleen Lowrey's avatar

Uh-huh. Which U.S. senators and representatives put up Iranian flags in their offices and wear Iranian lapel pins? none.

Now do Israel.

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wilson's avatar

now do how many dual israeli citizens are in congress. then do how many politicians are owned by AIPAC. then do who owns the msm. then read the talmud.

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Craig Verdi's avatar

If they can target scientists, why aren't they targeting leadership?

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Micah Johnson's avatar

Tabloid like headline and premise. The nukes just blow up in the middle of the night (bombed) and it’s over. It wouldn’t be the first. There’s no war with Iran, no territory to take, occupy and no regime to topple.

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Usually Wash's avatar

Chris tweeted recently that 7/8 Ivy presidents are Iranian. In fact 3/8 are Jewish. He just hates Jews. That’s what’s motivating him.

It doesn’t have to do with American interests and foreign entanglements. He’s a Canadian and constantly posts about Canada. I don’t think he’s even a US citizen.

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Micah Johnson's avatar

I mean, I like a lot of his article articles, but that is hilarious.

Canadian opinions without capital here have nil value - even normies on my street deserve the pulpit more than that type.

Iranians and Jews have what it takes to do well in America. Just like anyone else, though - if they’re woke, they gotta go. They wouldn’t be here if Iran wasn’t worse than Mexico and an international pariah. Likely they also wouldn’t have their positions if Americans weren’t dying from a thousand cuts. Their biggest security panic was street protest involving women, and they reacted as if it was gonna collapse the state, pathetic!

It turns out you can just bomb them and the bad guys die - amazing. This wouldn’t work on insurgents, but pretending that these people were insurgents rather than suits trapped in structures was a means to paralysis

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Usually Wash's avatar

Chris is good on woke stuff but absolutely deranged on anything related to Jews and Israel. He just hates Jews. He owns groyperstack.substack.com and as I said tweets things like this. https://x.com/realChrisBrunet/status/1934307222969839670

What's hilarious is that Eisgruber, one of the 3 (not 7) Ivy League Jewish Presidents recently came under fire for failing to protect Naftali Bennett's free speech. Eisgruber is someone who has promoted and supports far-left anti-Israel black activist professors like Ruha Benjamin and Dan-el Padilla.

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Micah Johnson's avatar

Lol I’ve seen so many memes from groypers denouncing him as a failed intellectual. Some of them are tier-charts with a special category for failed intellectuals and he’s on it. Ranking lower than Richard Hanania = brutal

It just sounds like a ridiculous claim when you look at the actual information about these Ivy League presidents - last name, spouse, religious affiliation, etc. Takes seconds to verify. Maybe he’s a dysgenic goblina

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Usually Wash's avatar

He first tried to be a groyper but then got in a conflict with Nick Fuentes. The thing about Chris is that he constantly gets into conflicts and fights with everyone.

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Luc Lelievre's avatar

Why's that?

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