Last week an anonymous whistleblower sent me this discriminatory job posting from the University of San Diego, advertising for a ‘female postdoctoral fellow’:
The OP does not deem it illegal, it is. It’s is clearly written in law that hiring cannot be done on the basis of sex, race, skin color, religion. Exceptions exist, such as hiring a woman for a female role in a movie or a white man for the role of George Washington, ideas that they are trying to do away with, otherwise it is illegal to make staffing decision based on such things.
Not at all shocking for Canada. Expected from there, actually. Canada sends all financial data it has on anyone the US claims as a “US person” including Canadian citizens and the charter challenge to prevent this failed, then you have the covid mess and now a bill to send people who use undefined “hate speech” online to prison for life. So allowing hiring of those of preferred genders, race and religions over those of unpreferred is right in line with what we see coming out of Canada.
Have to agree, it's not shocking at all. The lockdowns, travel restrictions, freezing bank accounts of political protesters, and passing a bill that can put you in jail for having politically incorrect opinions about WW2.
“Transparency, that’s the missing ingredient here. This small story highlights the critical role of investigative journalism in exposing and holding accountable those who engage in such deceptive practices.”
Ah! My Alma mater. In our MBA program 12 years ago, we were required to do corporate social responsibility, which was ESG-light. I thought it was good at the time to challenge what the purpose of corporations were. We did debate why there weren’t more women on boards and most of us agreed that it would be beneficial to encourage more women to join and/or get selected to join boards. I can’t say I’m too surprised with the job posting, except for the fact they might be violating civil rights here.
So isn't the root culprit Prebys Foundation? It is they who made the requirement for a woman (according to the prof). And--also according to the prof--it seems that she CAN hire a man, but he would not get the income supplement from Prebys. This would result in differential pay for the same work, which seems contrary to legislation. So maybe the prof posted the job as for a woman to avoid this situation...? (ps good effort in making that direct contact with the prof, which got answers/results)
I thought logic and Western philosophy were racist and white supremacist institutions? Apparently, once you legally erase all benefit for white males, there's a lot to be said for them.
They are so comfortable doing things that are wrong, they sometimes forget to censor themselves.
Also, there is no possible way they are not still going to remove candidates who are male, even if they do apply. They'll just to it in secret, with no email trails in case of litigation.
Kind of tangential from the main point of the post, but I find it interesting how women are trying to level out the last few fields in university that are male dominated. They now have something like 90%+ of all spots in teaching/education, speech & language pathology, etc. They are 56%+ of med and law students. The last remaining male fields are in engineering and natural science: EE, CS, Physics, ChemEng, etc.
At the same time women are complaining that they cannot find university educated males to date. It's beyond laughable. Chase out the males, then complain that guys aren't educated enough.
Good!!! Woman with Physics B.S. here. Had I gone on for the Ph.D., I would not have wanted to be thought of as having been given preferential treatment. The men shut one out if that is the case, and have contempt for one.
The coolest Physics thing I was part of was Penn State Wednesday meets at a bar, talking with Ben Owens about work on LIGO. I knew Thorne would get his Nobel from that. These bar meets and whitewater rafting are where the connections are made.
We have to earn respect, not be treated with the contempt of low expectations and false preference.
Yep. I've worked with excellent, highly intelligent women in the software industry. However, I've also encountered more than a few frauds who were obviously gaming the system. People who would never pass the usual full day, five round interview schedules. My competent female coworkers had a lot of contempt for those individuals.
Really? Wow that’s brutal. Fortunately he doesn’t want to stay in Academia and will be looking for a ‘real’ job…will be interesting to see what’s next. He is so discouraged with Canada right now. He’s definitely not alone! Uggggg.
Don't worry, when the position is eventually filled it WILL be by a woman.
This kind of job posting that you deem 'illegal', is totally 'legal' in Canada. Distressingly.
The OP does not deem it illegal, it is. It’s is clearly written in law that hiring cannot be done on the basis of sex, race, skin color, religion. Exceptions exist, such as hiring a woman for a female role in a movie or a white man for the role of George Washington, ideas that they are trying to do away with, otherwise it is illegal to make staffing decision based on such things.
Yes, agreed. This, however, is not true in 2024 Canada, shocking as that may seem.
Not at all shocking for Canada. Expected from there, actually. Canada sends all financial data it has on anyone the US claims as a “US person” including Canadian citizens and the charter challenge to prevent this failed, then you have the covid mess and now a bill to send people who use undefined “hate speech” online to prison for life. So allowing hiring of those of preferred genders, race and religions over those of unpreferred is right in line with what we see coming out of Canada.
Have to agree, it's not shocking at all. The lockdowns, travel restrictions, freezing bank accounts of political protesters, and passing a bill that can put you in jail for having politically incorrect opinions about WW2.
I find it strangely sad that she signs her email
-- Rae M Robertson-Anderson | she/her/hers
instead of
Dr. Rae Robertson-Anderson, Ph.D.
Her virtue signaling is more important than her credentials.
Welcome to the future.
Problem is, regardless what the letter of the law says, this kind of employment discrimination de facto IS legal. The court apparatus wills it so.
“Transparency, that’s the missing ingredient here. This small story highlights the critical role of investigative journalism in exposing and holding accountable those who engage in such deceptive practices.”
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Amen.
Ah! My Alma mater. In our MBA program 12 years ago, we were required to do corporate social responsibility, which was ESG-light. I thought it was good at the time to challenge what the purpose of corporations were. We did debate why there weren’t more women on boards and most of us agreed that it would be beneficial to encourage more women to join and/or get selected to join boards. I can’t say I’m too surprised with the job posting, except for the fact they might be violating civil rights here.
So isn't the root culprit Prebys Foundation? It is they who made the requirement for a woman (according to the prof). And--also according to the prof--it seems that she CAN hire a man, but he would not get the income supplement from Prebys. This would result in differential pay for the same work, which seems contrary to legislation. So maybe the prof posted the job as for a woman to avoid this situation...? (ps good effort in making that direct contact with the prof, which got answers/results)
Check this out: https://lpssdp.com/?fbclid=IwAR0IHFPiaCDYBKCN-xJNCaj4-0u1OiuDo-mx9f8rvpmMUeJyeRaALhHe4j8_aem_AR8Slm0Z4bm_t6Ol8TlBhQJZru2J-qWmpRsjSfKpvvDh2j23E2qkqlUqAYHRa9SnDbk. Is this legal?
White/Asian males should apply as students with disabilities since they clearly have birth conditions that put them at disadvantage in today’s world 😠
I thought logic and Western philosophy were racist and white supremacist institutions? Apparently, once you legally erase all benefit for white males, there's a lot to be said for them.
Most likely not.
They are so comfortable doing things that are wrong, they sometimes forget to censor themselves.
Also, there is no possible way they are not still going to remove candidates who are male, even if they do apply. They'll just to it in secret, with no email trails in case of litigation.
Kind of tangential from the main point of the post, but I find it interesting how women are trying to level out the last few fields in university that are male dominated. They now have something like 90%+ of all spots in teaching/education, speech & language pathology, etc. They are 56%+ of med and law students. The last remaining male fields are in engineering and natural science: EE, CS, Physics, ChemEng, etc.
At the same time women are complaining that they cannot find university educated males to date. It's beyond laughable. Chase out the males, then complain that guys aren't educated enough.
Disagree—be MORE aggressive.
Good!!! Woman with Physics B.S. here. Had I gone on for the Ph.D., I would not have wanted to be thought of as having been given preferential treatment. The men shut one out if that is the case, and have contempt for one.
The coolest Physics thing I was part of was Penn State Wednesday meets at a bar, talking with Ben Owens about work on LIGO. I knew Thorne would get his Nobel from that. These bar meets and whitewater rafting are where the connections are made.
We have to earn respect, not be treated with the contempt of low expectations and false preference.
A toast to Margaret Kivelson, the real thing.
Yep. I've worked with excellent, highly intelligent women in the software industry. However, I've also encountered more than a few frauds who were obviously gaming the system. People who would never pass the usual full day, five round interview schedules. My competent female coworkers had a lot of contempt for those individuals.
And this is why my son who is finishing his PhD in Biomedical Engineering in Switzerland has decided there’s no point in returning to Canada.
That's a tough field for land academic jobs. Had an acquaintance who was on his 7th postdoc position trying to find a spot.
Really? Wow that’s brutal. Fortunately he doesn’t want to stay in Academia and will be looking for a ‘real’ job…will be interesting to see what’s next. He is so discouraged with Canada right now. He’s definitely not alone! Uggggg.